Where is Luke’s Unbreachable Chasm?

I used to think that Luke’s describes an un-breachable permanent chasm between the heaven and hell, between the pit and heaven.  I believed the many teachers that talk of an eternal Hell, a permanent thing, and that many folks would suffer an eternal torment in Hell. The teachers that preach this blasphemy still call their “word of God” the good news.  Wow, I actually believed this for many years?!?!? I now see that this chasm simply warns us of that God’s rewards are permanent, separate places in heaven!  Jesus came to save all men, especially those who believe.  Everyone, after their day of the Lord’s wrath, will be given salvation in the promised land!!! But only the chosen few will receive the reward of the prophet, the Kingdom of God.  Only the Sheep will receive the reward of the the righteous, the Kingdom of Heaven.

Still, If we live our lives on earth in a manner that disqualifies us from the Kingdom of Heaven,  we will never receive that reward, the reward of the righteous.  The folks who receive the reward of the righteous are the sheep who gave to the weak and poor, who consider others greater,  whose righteousness exceeds that of the pharisees and teachers of the law. These folks are given the reward that was prepared for them at the creation of the world!  

Similarly, those who live their lives on earth in a manner that disqualifies them from the Kingdom of God, will never receive the reward of the prophet!  All folks who miss out on these rewards are still [eventually, in God’s time] given salvation in the promised land.  They are transformed to God’s Holy Mountain, but they will continue to gnash their teeth, seeing that they missed out on God’s  amazing rewards, the Kingdom of Heaven, and the stupendous Kingdom of God!! [No Eye Has Seen 1 Corinthians 2:9-16 (King James Version)]


Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus

NLT Luke 16:19 Jesus said, “There was a certain rich man who was splendidly clothed in purple and fine linen and who lived each day in luxury. 20 At his gate lay a poor man named Lazarus who was covered with sores. 21 As Lazarus lay there longing for scraps from the rich man’s table, the dogs would come and lick his open sores.

22 “Finally, the poor man died and was carried by the angels to be with Abraham. The rich man also died and was buried, 23 and his soul went to the place of the dead. There, in torment, he saw Abraham in the far distance with Lazarus at his side.

24 “The rich man shouted, ‘Father Abraham, have some pity! Send Lazarus over here to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue. I am in anguish in these flames.’

25 “But Abraham said to him, ‘Son, remember that during your lifetime you had everything you wanted, and Lazarus had nothing. So now he is here being comforted, and you are in anguish. 26 And besides, there is a great chasm separating us. No one can cross over to you from here, and no one can cross over to us from there.’

27 “Then the rich man said, ‘Please, Father Abraham, at least send him to my father’s home. 28 For I have five brothers, and I want him to warn them so they don’t end up in this place of torment.’

29 “But Abraham said, ‘Moses and the prophets have warned them. Your brothers can read what they wrote.’

30 “The rich man replied, ‘No, Father Abraham! But if someone is sent to them from the dead, then they will repent of their sins and turn to God.’

31 “But Abraham said, ‘If they won’t listen to Moses and the prophets, they won’t listen even if someone rises from the dead.’”

Let’s look at verse 26 again in Young’s Liter Translation

YLT Luke 16:26and besides all these things, between us and you a great chasm is fixed, so that they who are willing to go over from hence unto you are not able, nor do they from thence to us pass through.

Verse 26 says that no one could cross over you to here.  God’s word promises blessing for obedience and curses for disobedience.  This passage simply declares that these blessings are enduring in the age to come.

YLT 1 Peter 4:6For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

The few who are truly called to offer their lives as a living sacrifice to their flocks are the 144,000. They are the folks who are truly offering their lives as a living sacrifice for the sheep – living in Christ.  These folks are given the reward of the prophet, the Kingdom of God. These true shepherds never taste death.This is fully developed here: Those Who Never Taste Death  

The rest of Christ’s witnesses are the believers in Christ. These folks are still new creations in Christ, but they have not heard the shepherd’s call, they have not embraced the stricter judgment due Christ’s leaders, his prophets, but they have compassion for the weak and poor. These are the many coming from the east and west who sit with Abraham Isaac and Jacob in the Kingdom of Heaven. This next passage discusses the many, those who are outside the temple.  I’ve inserted a few of my interpretations/elaborations in the passage in blue. 

KJV Rev 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty [and] two months. 3 And I will give [power] unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days, clothed in sackcloth [the length of the Great Tribulation, the length of their earthly lives]. 4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. 5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. 6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. 7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.[This is where the devil is released for a little while after the thousand years – Rev 20:3] 8 And their dead bodies [shall lie] in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. 9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. [After we pass into the land of the dead we are not honored] 10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. 11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. 12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither.[When the next Shepherd – liver in Christ – passes we hear too hear the call to “come up here”Rev 4:1] And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.[many in the pit see are call to heaven and join with us – finally willing to glorify God] 14 The second woe is past; [and], behold, the third woe cometh quickly. 15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become [the kingdoms] of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.[Once we are in heaven we are no longer tormented by the devil, his roles are limited to the realm of the earth].

I think the shepherd experiences the sequence described in Rev 4:1-12 and the witnesses experience the sequence of Rev 11 [see above].

Summary:

This chasm is not fixed between Hell and salvation.  This chasm warns us of permanent implications of our obedience and disobedience in this life. If we miss out on the rewards that God offers us, we miss out!.  The parable of the farm workers makes it clear that all will receive salvation. All Those who come to repentance will enter the promised land, even those who have to go thru the lake of fire!  The few, the chose will endure their day of the Lord, their day of wrath in this life [these folks are headed for the reward of the righteous in the Kingdom of God].  Others, those given compassion for the weak and poor will be given the reward of the righteous in the Kingdom of Heaven.   Please don’t accept my testimony on these things.  Claim the promise – the Holy Spirit will, to all who come as childre, lead into all truth and tell us everything that Jesus wants us to hear!!!!

May God Continue To Guide and Protect Us

Glenn

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