Those Who Never Taste Death
Jesus does not view death as we mortals do. There are numerous passages in John that talk about those who Never Die. The Devil has twisted these teachings in knots so that he can use them to deceive the nations. This has been going on for centuries. I think it is time for the truth to be told, time for God to be glorified.
For those new to my site I’d like to present a little background information.
This post asks the question if Jesus came to Earth to replace the old temple – priest-class system, why do we still honor it today.
This post compares the wisdom of God with the wisdom of men.
Trying to reduce God down to a set of beliefs and practices will kill your soul. God will not stand for that kind of treatment. God requires we seek him with all our heart.
Pastors are the deceived deceivers we hear about in our Bibles. These passages warn them of the wrath coming their way.
A Biblical Worship service requires the active participation and input of all worshipers. These passages show us how we are to gather. Let’s now dig into those who never taste death!
Now Lets dig into “Those who never die”. Just before Jesus raises Lazarus he has this conversation with Martha:
KJV John 11:21-26
21 Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died. 22 But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will give [it] thee. 23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. 24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. 25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: 26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
The people who only believe in Jesus though they die they will live[those folks actually taste death], but those who both live in Christ and believe in him shall never die!! These folks never taste death. It seems incredible but isn’t that what Jesus says.
Those are Jesus simple words to us. When Jesus speaks of death he has a less worldly perspective. Jesus is not talking about our passing from this earth when he speaks of death!!! I pray we can humble ourselves and accept this! Clearly the disciples were listening to Jesus, and they both believed in Christ and lived in Christ so they never died, they never tasted death!!
I don’t presume to fully understand this but I can accept it. I wonder if those living in Christ never actually “fell asleep”, never went through the flames like those who build with wood hay and straw. We’ll go into that later. Let’s see what the Bible says about falling asleep:
Our Final Victory
NKJV 1 Cor 15:50-58
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed― 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.”
55 “ O Death, where is your sting?
O Hades, where is your victory?”
56 The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.
This passage tells us what happens at the last trumpet. Those who are dead, those who just believed in Jesus are raised incorruptible, and those who were living in Christ shall be changed. I believe these folks are the mortal ones who “put on immortality”.
I think what is happening here is that these who just believe in Jesus sit at the great white throne judgment and come thru the fire, being selected as the sheep.
The last trumpet too is not a one time event. It blows every time one of the chosen few pass from this world. Those who both live in Christ and believe in him will not die, but they will be immediately delivered into Jesus’ kingdom of God.
This is not talking about an earthly rapture. This is simply the the process that Jesus established with his death on the cross. When those who both believe in and live in Jesus pass from this earth, their next experience is in their new bodies in Heaven! These are the folks who sit at the marriage supper of the Lamb!
These folks never taste the sting of death. Jesus tells us they never die. Let’s first look at those who build with with wood hay and straw that come through the flames.
NKJV 1 Cor 3:9 For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, you are God’s building. 10 According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let each one take heed how he builds on it. 11 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. 14 If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.
There’s a lot going on here. Lets work our way through it. Paul laid the foundation for the gentile church. He set the example. All who try to build on the church of Jesus Christ are warned to heed the examples that Paul established, to build on the foundation that Paul laid. Those who build on the foundation of wise sounding sermons, or lord over leaders, or a watered down seeker-friendly gospel, or for pay preaching are not building on the right foundation and they will be disqualified. Then Paul warns those who build on his foundation to be careful what they build with. If they build with wood hay and straw, with worldly things that will be burned up by the trials, by fire, they will suffer loss. He will still be saved as through fire. These people like the ones who helped the weak hungry and sick will die, but live again. Like the believers in John 11:25 “though he were dead, yet shall he live”. Take a look at this promise in Luke 1:28. Jesus will sit on the throne of David, the throne of the true God seekers on earth forever!
Jesus Sits On David’s Throne Forever!
NLT Luke 1:28 Gabriel appeared to her and said, “Greetings, favored woman! The Lord is with you! ” 29 Confused and disturbed, Mary tried to think what the angel could mean. 30 “Don’t be afraid, Mary,” the angel told her, “for you have found favor with God! 31 You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you will name him Jesus. 32 He will be very great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his ancestor David. 33 And he will reign over Israel forever; his Kingdom will never end !”
Jesus will continue ruling over the throne of David forever. This passage says that his kingdom on Earth will never end!
NLT Is 9: 6 For a child is born to us, a son is given to us. The government will rest on his shoulders. And he will be called: Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7 His government and its peace will never end . He will rule with fairness and justice from the throne of his ancestor David for all eternity. The passionate commitment of the LORD of Heaven’s Armies will make this happen! The LORD’s Anger against Israel 8 The Lord has spoken out against Jacob; his judgment has fallen upon Israel. 9 And the people of Israel and Samaria, who spoke with such pride and arrogance, will soon know it. 10 They said, “We will replace the broken bricks of our ruins with finished stone, and replant the felled sycamore-fig trees with cedars.” 11 But the LORD will bring Rezin’s enemies against Israel and stir up all their foes. 12 The Syrians from the east and the Philistines from the west will bare their fangs and devour Israel. But even then the LORD’s anger will not be satisfied. His fist is still poised to strike. 13 For after all this punishment, the people will still not repent. They will not seek the LORD of Heaven’s Armies. 14 Therefore, in a single day the LORD will destroy both the head and the tail, the noble palm branch and the lowly reed. 15 The leaders of Israel are the head, and the lying prophets are the tail. 16 For the leaders of the people have misled them. They have led them down the path of destruction.
Jesus rules forever on the throne of David, the leader of Israel, here on earth. Jesus Kingdom on earth will never end. Israel here is not talking about Jews or the country of Israel. Israel in both these passage represents those who are “contenders with God”, those who actually seek and follow him.
The whole idea of a rapture is based on a misinterpretation. Let’s look at the ‘One Taken, another left passage?’
The Great Tribulation
NKJV Matt 24:15-51
15 “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation[today’s Nicolaitan ‘Lord over’ priestclass],’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), 16 “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. 18 And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes.[Run away from this place of God’s anger and wrath or you will share in her ongoing punishment] 19 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days![The pregnant spiritual leaders, looking for followers, and their infant immature followers are in big trouble. These ‘believers’ are are the Lukewarm Laodiceans who will be vomited out from the mouth of the Lord at their 7th trumpet, when they die and are cast in the Lake of Fire!] 20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved[Nearly everyone has fallen away into this trap of the devil]; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened[God leads the few out from this deception and purifies his 144,000].
23 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you beforehand.
26 “Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it. 27 For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 28 For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.[Whenever we pass we will see the lightning flash]
The Coming of the Son of Man
29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
The Parable of the Fig Tree
32 “Now learn this parable from the fig tree: When its branch has already become tender and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near. 33 So you also, when you see all these things, know that it is near―at the doors! 34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.
No One Knows the Day or Hour
36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. 37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away,[like those in Noah’s day we do not know the day or hour of our passing] so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken[die] and the other left[left alive] 42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming [we do not know when we will pass from this earth]. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.[Jesus is warning us to prepare for our passing, to stay at peace with God, so we are not disqualified]
The Faithful Servant and the Evil Servant
45 “Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season? 46 Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing.[Are we ruling well over our household servants, feeding them, giving them both the spiritual and real food that they need] 47 Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods. 48 But if that evil servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ 49 and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards,[or are we lording over them, starving them spiritually and physically?] 50 the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of, 51 and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Let’s close with Paul discussing being disqualified:
NKJV 2 Cor 13:5 Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you are disqualified. 6 But I trust that you will know that we are not disqualified.
If we are in the faith, if our faith is genuine, if the Holy Spirit lives inside us we are not disqualified.
Striving for a Crown
NKJV 1 Cor 9:
24 Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may obtain it. 25 And everyone who competes for the prize is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a perishable crown, but we for an imperishable crown. 26 Therefore I run thus: not with uncertainty. Thus I fight: not as one who beats the air. 27 But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.
The follower of Christ is not at the mercy of the lusts of the flesh. We like Paul must discipline our bodies and bring them into subjection. If we have not cut off the hand that causes us to sin, if we have not dethroned the idol that causes us to do evil in God’s eyes we too will be disqualified.
When the we pass from this earth we either sit in Heaven or at the judgement seat of Christ. The folks who took the mark of the beast and worshiped him by preaching the covering doctrine receive the full wrath of God, but those who persecuted the weak hungry and sick are simply sent to this place of destruction.
The millennial reign of Christ finds the beheaded saints, those who truly lived in Christ ruling with him over the evil spirits of earth. We are told that Jesus’ rule over the throne of David is eternal, it will never end. We should not expect Jesus to come back to establish his millennial kingdom here on earth. The Bible tells us not to listen when people claim his return.
May Your will be done. May your spiritual kingdom reign in our hearts so that your will may be done on earth as it is in heaven!
P.S. Supporting Passages:
Never Die Related Verses – The day we die is better than the day we were born:
NKJV Ecc 7: 1 A good name is better than precious ointment,
And the day of death than the day of one’s birth;
2 Better to go to the house of mourning
Than to go to the house of feasting,
For that is the end of all men;
And the living will take it to heart.
3 Sorrow is better than laughter,
For by a sad countenance the heart is made better.
4 The heart of the wise is in the house of mourning,
But the heart of fools is in the house of mirth.
The Bible says that the heart of the wise is in the house of mourning but the heart of the fool is in the house of mirth for our end is in the house of morning. The heart is made better by a sad countenance. We need to understand the message here. Lets get a grip on what happens when we pass!
If John lived until Jesus Returns
NLT John 21: 18 “I tell you the truth, when you were young, you were able to do as you liked; you dressed yourself and went wherever you wanted to go. But when you are old, you will stretch out your hands, and others[f] will dress you and take you where you don’t want to go.” 19 Jesus said this to let him know by what kind of death he would glorify God. Then Jesus told him, “Follow me.”
20 Peter turned around and saw behind them the disciple Jesus loved―the one who had leaned over to Jesus during supper and asked, “Lord, who will betray you?” 21 Peter asked Jesus, “What about him, Lord?”
22 Jesus replied, “If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? As for you, follow me.” 23 So the rumor spread among the community of believers that this disciple wouldn’t die. But that isn’t what Jesus said at all. He only said, “If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you?”
24 This disciple is the one who testifies to these events and has recorded them here. And we know that his account of these things is accurate.
Why wold Jesus raise this question? It started the rumor that John wouldn’t die, but he did. I think Jesus was planting a seed. He wants us to know that if we really love Jesus we too will see him coming into his Kingdom when we pass from this earth.
MKJV Is 28:5 In that day the LORD of hosts shall be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty, to the rest of His people, 6 and for a spirit of judgment to him who sits in judgment, and for strength to those who turn back the battle to the gate. 7 But they also have sinned through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way. The priest and the prophet have sinned through drink; they are swallowed up by wine; they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment. 8 For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness; no place is clean . 9 Whom shall He teach knowledge? And whom shall He make to understand doctrine? Those weaned from the milk and drawn from the breasts. 10 For precept must be on precept, precept on precept; line on line, line on line; here a little, there a little; 11 for with stammering lips and another tongue He will speak to this people. 12 To whom He said, This is the rest; cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing. Yet they were not willing to hear. 13 But the Word of the LORD was to them precept on precept, precept on precept; line on line, line on line; here a little, there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken and snared and taken. 14 Therefore hear the Word of the LORD, scornful men who rule this people in Jerusalem. 15 Because you have said, We have made a covenant with death, and we have made a vision with hell; when the overwhelming rod shall pass through, it shall not come to us; for we have made lies our refuge, and we have hidden ourselves under falsehood, 16 therefore so says the Lord Jehovah, Behold, I place in Zion a Stone for a foundation, a tried Stone, a precious Cornerstone, a sure Foundation; he who believes shall not hurry. 17 Also I will lay judgment to the line, and righteousness to the plummet; and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place. 18 And your covenant with death shall be wiped out, and your vision with hell shall not stand; when the overwhelming rod shall pass through, then you shall be beaten down by it. 19 From the time that it goes out it shall take you; for morning by morning it shall pass over, by day and by night; and it shall be only a terror to understand the message. 20 For the bed is shorter than one can stretch himself on, and the cover is narrower than one can wrap himself in. 21 For the LORD shall rise up as in Mount Perazim; He shall be angry as in the valley of Gibeon, so that He may do His work, His strange work; and bring to pass His act, His strange act. 22 So then do not be mockers, lest your bands be made strong; for I have heard from the Lord Jehovah of hosts that a full end is decreed on all the earth. 23 Give ear and hear my voice; listen, and hear my speech. 24 Does the plowman plow all day to sow? Does he open and break the clods of his ground? 25 When he has made the face of it level, does he not cast out the dill and scatter the cummin, and throw in the choice wheat and the chosen barley and the spelt in its border? 26 For his God instructs him to do right; his God teaches him.
Is God going to forever cultivate and never plant? It won’t make sense if he comes back to earth and halts the planting process. God would lose his seed planting kingdom. From that point on the Lord would be forever cultivating and never planting. The system that God established to plant the seed of souls is this earth-tribulation period. The millennium kingdom is already begun for those who choose to sit at Christ’s table rather than at the table of the demons and idols of this world. If the Lord were to end this trial period he would be “forever cultivating and never planting”.
Those Saying God Doesn’t See
NLT Is 29:15-24
15 What sorrow awaits those who try to hide their plans from the Lord,
who do their evil deeds in the dark!
“The Lord can’t see us,” they say.
“He doesn’t know what’s going on!”
16 How foolish can you be?
He is the Potter, and he is certainly greater than you, the clay!
Should the created thing say of the one who made it,
“He didn’t make me”?
Does a jar ever say,
“The potter who made me is stupid”?
17 Soon—and it will not be very long—
the forests of Lebanon will become a fertile field,
and the fertile field will yield bountiful crops.
18 In that day the deaf will hear words read from a book,
and the blind will see through the gloom and darkness.
19 The humble will be filled with fresh joy from the Lord.
The poor will rejoice in the Holy One of Israel.
20 The scoffer will be gone,
the arrogant will disappear,
and those who plot evil will be killed.
21 Those who convict the innocent
by their false testimony will disappear.
A similar fate awaits those who use trickery to pervert justice
and who tell lies to destroy the innocent.[These folks are the persecutor of the poor the goats that will be thrown in the lake of fire!]
22 That is why the Lord, who redeemed Abraham, says to the people of Israel,
“My people will no longer be ashamed
or turn pale with fear.
23 For when they see their many children
and all the blessings I have given them,
they will recognize the holiness of the Holy One of Israel.
They will stand in awe of the God of Jacob.
24 Then the wayward will gain understanding,
and complainers will accept instruction.
So liars, the arrogant, evildoers, and false witnesses will not make it into Jesus’ Millennial Kingdom. The plumb line of righteousness is not going away. The righteous, those who follow Christ must turn from evil and sin. If we are relying on short bed sheets, on the seeker friendly gospel, on saying that we believe in Christ without following him we too will be tormented morning after morning, day after day.
NKJV Is 29:“ Inasmuch as these people draw near with their mouths
And honor Me with their lips,
But have removed their hearts far from Me,
And their fear toward Me is taught by the commandment of men,
14 Therefore, behold, I will again do a marvelous work
Among this people,
A marvelous work and a wonder;
For the wisdom of their wise men shall perish,
And the understanding of their prudent men shall be hidden.”
15 Woe to those who seek deep to hide their counsel far from the LORD,
And their works are in the dark;
They say, “Who sees us?” and, “Who knows us?”
16 Surely you have things turned around!
Shall the potter be esteemed as the clay;
For shall the thing made say of him who made it,
“ He did not make me”?
Or shall the thing formed say of him who formed it,
“ He has no understanding”?
Future Recovery of Wisdom
17 Is it not yet a very little while
Till Lebanon shall be turned into a fruitful field,
And the fruitful field be esteemed as a forest?
18 In that day the deaf shall hear the words of the book,
And the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity and out of darkness.
19 The humble also shall increase their joy in the LORD,
And the poor among men shall rejoice
In the Holy One of Israel.
20 For the terrible one is brought to nothing,
The scornful one is consumed,
And all who watch for iniquity are cut off―
21 Who make a man an offender by a word,
And lay a snare for him who reproves in the gate,
And turn aside the just by empty words.
22 Therefore thus says the LORD, who redeemed Abraham, concerning the house of Jacob:
“ Jacob shall not now be ashamed,
Nor shall his face now grow pale;
23 But when he sees his children,
The work of My hands, in his midst,
They will hallow My name,
And hallow the Holy One of Jacob,
And fear the God of Israel.
24 These also who erred in spirit will come to understanding,
And those who complained will learn doctrine.”
If we presume to stand in judgment of our creator, we too will be judged. If we are humble we will increase in the joy of the Lord, but the scornful one is consumed!
MKJV Rev 13:13:1 And I stood on the sand of the sea, and I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns. And on its horns were ten crowns, and on its heads was the name of blasphemy. 2 And the beast which I saw was like a leopard, and its feet like those of a bear, and its mouth like the mouth of a lion. And the dragon gave him its power and its seat and great authority. 3 And I saw one of its heads as having been slain to death, and its deadly wound was healed. And all the earth marveled after the beast. 4 And they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast. And they worshiped the beast, saying, Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with it? 5 And a mouth speaking great things was given to it, and blasphemies. And authority was given to it to continue forty-two months. 6 And it opened its mouth in blasphemy toward God, to blaspheme His name and His tabernacle, and those dwelling in Heaven. 7 And it was given to it to war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given to it over every tribe and tongue and nation. 8 And all dwelling on the earth will worship it, those whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain, from the foundation of the world.
Worshiping the beast is teaching the covering doctrine, telling people that they need to worship under the authority of today’s “ordained of men” ministry. This passage says that then names of all who teach that doctrine are not written in the Lambs book of Life!
MKJV Rev 17:1 And one of the seven angels who had the seven vials came and talked with me, saying to me, Come here, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot sitting on many waters, 2 with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, and became drunk with the wine of her fornication, those inhabiting the earth. 3 And he carried me away into a desert by the Spirit. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet-colored beast, filled with names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet. And she was gilded with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication. 5 And on her forehead was a name written , MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6 And I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And when I saw her, I marveled with a great marveling. 7 And the angel said to me, Why did you marvel? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, that has the seven heads and ten horns. 8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to ascend out of the abyss and go into perdition.And those dwelling on the earth will marvel, those whose names were not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Those who marvel at today’s priestclass beast are not written in the book of life! If you are going to a regular Protestant or Catholic church, most of those around you are in this category, most will be rejected at the marriage supper of the Lamb!
Those Who Never Taste Death
Those Who Never Taste Death
Those Who Never Taste Death
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