Saying God Doesn’t See

Those who believe that there is a God, but think that he cannot see them, have a counterfeit faith. This allows them to continue to honor their idols, to continue indulging in their deliberate sins. These folks have turned away from God. The Bible tells us that God is especially angry at these folks. Those saying God doesn’t see are scoffing at God. All who deny God by the way they live qualify as scoffers. Denying God By The Way We Live. This relates to the Pharisee Leaven of Hypocrisy and self righteousness.

There are four passages that I found discussing these folks who say God doesn’t see. I’ve summarized these passages here and included the full text in the post script.

Looking first look at Job 22:12-30

Eliphaz, one of Job’s three “friends” that did not properly represent the Lord, that Job later prays for, tells Job that if he thinks that dark clouds hide us from the eyes of God he is walking on an old evil path. I think Eliphaz was correct in this particular assertion. God can see us and all of our sins. This denial of God’s power allows us to think we are OK to keep sinning, but if we can become pure[Coming Back To God], God will hear our prayers for others and save them! This awesome promise is for all who can give up their lust for money and clean up their lives. These folks receive the promises that God will be our treasure!

Is 40: 26

Isaiah warns that to think the creator of all things doesn’t see the way we are going is childish. God never faints or becomes weary and his understanding is unsearchable

Jer 12:1-17

Jeremiah is talking about our fallen churches. God has planted these lost churches, these churches who have God’s name on their lips, but their hearts are far away from him. These pretenders will be butchered and slaughtered! God has surrendered them, his dearest ones, to their enemies[to todays priest-class abomination lThe Fall Of The Abomination ] because they have roared at him like a lion [violent self ambitious self assertive beasts] in the forest [Evil Leaders, both political and religious]. Many rulers have ravaged God’s vineyard[his assembly], trampling down the vines[their connection to Christ] and turning all its beauty into a barren wilderness.

Nations who turn back to the Lord, his ways, living in Christ will be identified as the Lords. Those that do not will be uprooted and destroyed.

Ez 8-9

Ezekiel warns that the assembly is worshiping the idol that makes the Lord jealous, worshiping their idol of worldliness. This is driving the Lord out from their assemblies. There are more wicked and detestable sins. They include the walls[the assemblies structured upon] crawling animals and detestable creatures[their idols, the abomination and devil beasts]. The assembly commits many sins in dark rooms thinking the Lord does not see.[pornography dishonesty, lack of charity…]. Next are the women[churches] weeping for the god Tammuz[God of Sun, worshiped in the summer in June first by weeping and then with obscene revelry-Smith’s Dictionary]. Then the 25 in the inner courtyard, facing east, bowing low to the ground, worshiping the sun[worshiping Gaiya, Nature, Mother Earth, these 25 in the inner court represent the powers of our worldly church denominations]!

The final straw in God’s eyes is the leaders taking the whole nation into violence, and causing their followers to thumb their noses at him, and provoking his anger. This will permanently cost them all God’s ear, and his mercy; “Though they cry for mercy I will not hear them”

Then the man with the writers case marks all who mourn for the sins of these terrible assembly and the 6 men of wrath from the North began their assignment killing everyone without the Mark. None will not be spared.

I think it is possible to mourn for the sins of the assembly while still remaining among those who say that God doesn’t see us[ref Pete’s post]. Using Pete’s interpretation for coming out of Babylon, these folks are still in Babylon. Still not honoring God, not turning from sin. These folks may not be committing all of these idolatrous sins, but they are still subject to God’s wrath on those in Babylon!

Dear God,

Please forgive our many sins. Keep us from scoffing at you, from denying your almighty power, from doubting you, and from scoffing at your power. You are the all powerful, all knowing creator of the universe. You are the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end, the way the truth and the light. Help us to appreciate and fear you, to seek you, your will, your power, and your glory, forever and ever. May your will be done, may your Kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven, In Jesus Name we pray, Amen. Glenn

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NLT Job 22: 12 “God is so great―higher than the heavens,

higher than the farthest stars.

13 But you reply, ‘That’s why God can’t see what I am doing!

How can he judge through the thick darkness?

14 For thick clouds swirl about him, and he cannot see us.

He is way up there, walking on the vault of heaven.’

15 “Will you continue on the old paths

where evil people have walked?

16 They were snatched away in the prime of life,

the foundations of their lives washed away.

17 For they said to God, ‘Leave us alone!

What can the Almighty do to us?’

18 Yet he was the one who filled their homes with good things,

so I will have nothing to do with that kind of thinking.

19 “The righteous will be happy to see the wicked destroyed,

and the innocent will laugh in contempt.

20 They will say, ‘See how our enemies have been destroyed.

The last of them have been consumed in the fire.’

21 “Submit to God, and you will have peace;

then things will go well for you.

22 Listen to his instructions,

and store them in your heart.

23 If you return to the Almighty, you will be restored―

so clean up your life.

24 If you give up your lust for money

and throw your precious gold into the river,

25 the Almighty himself will be your treasure.

He will be your precious silver!

26 “Then you will take delight in the Almighty

and look up to God.

27 You will pray to him, and he will hear you,

and you will fulfill your vows to him.

28 You will succeed in whatever you choose to do,

and light will shine on the road ahead of you.

29 If people are in trouble and you say, ‘Help them,’

God will save them.

30 Even sinners will be rescued;

they will be rescued because your hands are pure.

When we think that dark clouds hide us from the eyes of God we are walk on an old evil path. God can see us and all of our sins. This denial of God’s power allows us to think we are OK to keep sinning.

If we can become pure, God will hear our prayers for others and save them! If we can give up our lust for money and clean up our lives God will be our treasure!

NKJV Is 40: 26 Lift up your eyes on high,

And see who has created these things,

Who brings out their host by number;

He calls them all by name,

By the greatness of His might

And the strength of His power;

Not one is missing.

27 Why do you say, O Jacob,

And speak, O Israel:

g My way is hidden from the LORD,

And my just claim is passed over by my God”?

28 Have you not known?

Have you not heard?

The everlasting God, the LORD,

The Creator of the ends of the earth,

Neither faints nor is weary.

His understanding is unsearchable.

To think that the creator of all things doesn’t see the way we are going is pretty childish. This passage tells us that he never faints or becomes weary and his understanding is unsearchable

Jeremiah Questions the Lord’s Justice

NLT Jer 12:1-17

1 Lord, you always give me justice

when I bring a case before you.

So let me bring you this complaint:

Why are the wicked so prosperous?

Why are evil people so happy?

2 You have planted them,

and they have taken root and prospered.

Your name is on their lips,

but you are far from their hearts.

3 But as for me, Lord, you know my heart.

You see me and test my thoughts.

Drag these people away like sheep to be butchered!

Set them aside to be slaughtered!

4 How long must this land mourn?

Even the grass in the fields has withered.

The wild animals and birds have disappeared

because of the evil in the land.

For the people have said,

gThe Lord doesn’t see what’s ahead for us!

The Lord’s Reply to Jeremiah

5 “If racing against mere men makes you tired,

how will you race against horses?

If you stumble and fall on open ground,

what will you do in the thickets near the Jordan?

6 Even your brothers, members of your own family,

have turned against you.

They plot and raise complaints against you.

Do not trust them,

no matter how pleasantly they speak.

7 “I have abandoned my people, my special possession.

I have surrendered my dearest ones to their enemies.

8 My chosen people have roared at me like a lion of the forest,

so I have treated them with contempt.

9 My chosen people act like speckled vultures,

but they themselves are surrounded by vultures.

Bring on the wild animals to pick their corpses clean!

10 “Many rulers have ravaged my vineyard,

trampling down the vines

and turning all its beauty into a barren wilderness.

11 They have made it an empty wasteland;

I hear its mournful cry.

The whole land is desolate,

and no one even cares.

12 On all the bare hilltops,

destroying armies can be seen.

The sword of the Lord devours people

from one end of the nation to the other.

No one will escape!

13 My people have planted wheat

but are harvesting thorns.

They have worn themselves out,

but it has done them no good.

They will harvest a crop of shame

because of the fierce anger of the Lord.”

A Message for Israel’s Neighbors

14 Now this is what the Lord says: “I will uproot from their land all the evil nations reaching out for the possession I gave my people Israel. And I will uproot Judah from among them. 15 But afterward I will return and have compassion on all of them. I will bring them home to their own lands again, each nation to its own possession. 16 And if these nations truly learn the ways of my people, and if they learn to swear by my name, saying, ‘As surely as the Lord lives’ (just as they taught my people to swear by the name of Baal), then they will be given a place among my people. 17 But any nation who refuses to obey me will be uprooted and destroyed. I, the Lord, have spoken!”.

This passage is talking about our fallen churches. God has planted these lost churches, these churches who have God’s name on their lips, but their hearts are far away. These pretenders will be butchered and slaughtered! God has surrendered them, his dearest ones, to their enemies[the priestclass abomination] because they have roared at him like a lion [violent self ambitious self assertive beasts] in the forest [Evil Leaders, both political and religious]. Many rulers have ravaged God’s vineyard[his assembly], trampling down the vines[the connection to Christ] and turning all its beauty into a barren wilderness.

Nations who turn back to the Lord, his ways, living in Christ will be identified as the Lords. Those that do not will be uprooted and destroyed.

NLT Ez 8: 5 Then the Lord said to me, “Son of man, look toward the north.” So I looked, and there to the north, beside the entrance to the gate near the altar, stood the idol that had made the Lord so jealous.

6 “Son of man,” he said, “do you see what they are doing? Do you see the detestable sins the people of Israel are committing to drive me from my Temple? But come, and you will see even more detestable sins than these!” 7 Then he brought me to the door of the Temple courtyard, where I could see a hole in the wall. 8 He said to me, “Now, son of man, dig into the wall.” So I dug into the wall and found a hidden doorway.

9 “Go in,” he said, “and see the wicked and detestable sins they are committing in there!” 10 So I went in and saw the walls engraved with all kinds of crawling animals and detestable creatures. I also saw the various idols worshiped by the people of Israel. 11 Seventy leaders of Israel were standing there with Jaazaniah son of Shaphan in the center. Each of them held an incense burner, from which a cloud of incense rose above their heads.

12 Then the Lord said to me, “Son of man, have you seen what the leaders of Israel are doing with their idols in dark rooms? They are saying, ‘The Lord doesn’t see us; he has deserted our land!’” 13 Then the Lord added, “Come, and I will show you even more detestable sins than these!”

14 He brought me to the north gate of the Lord’s Temple, and some women were sitting there, weeping for the god Tammuz. 15 “Have you seen this?” he asked. “But I will show you even more detestable sins than these!”

16 Then he brought me into the inner courtyard of the Lord’s Temple. At the entrance to the sanctuary, between the entry room and the bronze altar, there were about twenty-five men with their backs to the sanctuary of the Lord. They were facing east, bowing low to the ground, worshiping the sun!

17 “Have you seen this, son of man?” he asked. “Is it nothing to the people of Judah that they commit these detestable sins, leading the whole nation into violence, thumbing their noses at me, and provoking my anger? 18 Therefore, I will respond in fury. I will neither pity nor spare them. And though they cry for mercy, I will not listen.”

Ez 9:The Slaughter of Idolaters

1 Then the Lord thundered, “Bring on the men appointed to punish the city! Tell them to bring their weapons with them!” 2 Six men soon appeared from the upper gate that faces north, each carrying a deadly weapon in his hand. With them was a man dressed in linen, who carried a writer’s case at his side. They all went into the Temple courtyard and stood beside the bronze altar.

3 Then the glory of the God of Israel rose up from between the cherubim, where it had rested, and moved to the entrance of the Temple. And the Lord called to the man dressed in linen who was carrying the writer’s case. 4 He said to him, “Walk through the streets of Jerusalem and put a mark on the foreheads of all who weep and sigh because of the detestable sins being committed in their city.”

5 Then I heard the Lord say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! 6 Kill them all―old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin right here at the Temple.” So they began by killing the seventy leaders.

7 “Defile the Temple!” the Lord commanded. “Fill its courtyards with corpses. Go!” So they went and began killing throughout the city.

8 While they were out killing, I was all alone. I fell face down on the ground and cried out, “O Sovereign Lord! Will your fury against Jerusalem wipe out everyone left in Israel?”

9 Then he said to me, “The sins of the people of Israel and Judah are very, very great. The entire land is full of murder; the city is filled with injustice. They are saying, ‘The Lord doesn’t see it! The Lord has abandoned the land!’ 10 So I will not spare them or have any pity on them. I will fully repay them for all they have done.”

11 Then the man in linen clothing, who carried the writer’s case, reported back and said, “I have done as you commanded.”

Reviewing Ez 8 and 9.

The assembly is worshiping the idol that makes the Lord jealous, worshiping the world. This is driving the Lord out from their assemblies. There are more wicked and detestable sins include the walls[the assemblies structured upon] crawling animals and detestable creatures[the idols of the abomination and devil beasts]. The assembly commits many sins in dark rooms thinking the Lord does not see us[pornography dishonesty, lack of charity…]. Next are the women[churches] weeping for the god Tammuz[God of Sun summer worshiped in June first by weeping and then obscene revels-Smiths]. Then the 25 in the inner courtyard, facing east, bowing low to the ground, worshiping the sun[Gaiya, Nature, Mother Earth, these 25 in the inner court represent the powers of our worldly church denominations]!

The final straw in God’s eyes is the leaders taking the whole nation into violence, and causing their followers to thumb their noses at him. This act provokes God’s anger and wrath. This will cost them all God’s ear, and his mercy; Though they cry for mercy I will not hear them.

Then the man with the writers case marks all who mourn for the sins of these terrible assembly and the 6 men of wrath from the North began their assignment killing everyone without the Mark. They will not be spared.

I think it is possible to mourn for the sins of the assembly and remain among those who say that God doesn’t see us. Using Pete’s interpretation for coming out of Babylon, these folks are still in Babylon. Still not honoring God, not turning from sin. We may not be committing all of these idolatrous sins, but we are still subject to God’s wrath on Babylon! Come Out From Babylon, From Today’s Harlot Church

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